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Schmata Bastanold
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Posted - 2014.08.19 06:04:00 -
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Oh my gawd... I don't know what to say about this OP. I simply lack of words that could describe how disappointed I am by this piece of PR sh!t.
And CSM, those bubbleheads nodding obediently and praising how well CCP reacted? Geez...
You talked all day and all you came up with is "investigation". Because apparently "buy PLEX from me and I will buy it back at Jita price + x" is not clear enough. Invalid signature format |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.08.19 07:40:00 -
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CCP legal department has to have even better space lawyers than those we see posting on forums from time to time. Good game, Lisa :) Oh well, at least they "investigate", that has to count for something, right? Invalid signature format |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.08.19 08:19:00 -
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Mike, do you know anything more about this than what was already posted in this and previous thread? Because from where I sit case is simple: either CCP agreed for SOMER's scheme or they didn't. Former makes it clear: all is cool, move along. Latter makes it even clearer: SOMER lied and it's plain old RMT which is bannable offense.
Nobody can deny real world currency is getting exchanged for ISK here, only thing "community" doesn't know is CCP role and stance about it. And how much "investigation" is needed to answer one simple question: did CCP allowed SOMER to put his idea in motion? Don't they know that?
Smoke and mirrors are fine, they can make torch light really breathtaking to observe. Invalid signature format |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.08.19 11:42:00 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:So does for example Dotlan ...it's an valuable in-game service financed also through a GTC/PLEX buying link. Although, as I stated earlier, this is a more indirect connection it still generates real money from an in-game service.
Except buying PLEX from Dotlan doesn't give you any in-game item or currency if you choose to use their referral link. Yes, you can plan your travel more efficiently than you would just with use of in-game map but that's only because CCP prefers to have bunch of half-assed features in-game and let the 3rd parties implement better versions (vide Dotlan, various fitting tools, market analyzers, etc.).
Dotlan gets RL money for PLEX sales and probably quite nice amount of ISK donations in-game but one has nothing to do with the other. In case of SOMER's latest scheme buying PLEX with their referral link is connected to rewarding you for that with ISK. And it doesn't matter whether you take that offer or just sell PLEX on in-game market, the fact alone that SOMER makes that offer is proposition of participation in RMT. Which according to common knowledge is bannable offense to both sides of a deal. Invalid signature format |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.08.19 12:32:00 -
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Ali Aras wrote:CSM just had another meeting with CCP, including the VP of Sales. It's great that CCP has kept us so involved and are actively seeking the input of us and the community. Mad props to Leeloo and Falcon for their hard work.
VP of Sales, well well... Thick plottens... Invalid signature format |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.08.19 13:48:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:cool stuff but...
So... lying about CCP's approval to boost my RL sales AND involve players in my shady RMT shenanigans is ok but me saying I'm an alt of ... is bannable offense?
Well next time I expect to see on main page of SOMERblink a fully fledged letter from Hilmar addressed to "customers" of SOMER encouraging them to use SOMER's referral link due to excellence of service. Why stop at one-liner when you can just go gunk-ho?
Word.
*drops da mike next to tinfoil hat* Invalid signature format |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:19:00 -
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Green Gambit wrote:Now third parties, like Somer Blink, who are encouraging people to buy credits to gamble, and actually running online casinos are responsible for making sure that they conform with laws/regulations/taxes/etc covering running an online casino.
Except you cannot pay RL money to SOMER and get blinks to play with. You pay them space money for pixel credits you can gamble with - there's no law to prohibit or control this since whole casino/lottery works with imaginary currency. Only thing law applies to is SOMER's income from PLEX referral link but I'm sure he has it nicely sorted as any responsible adult would do. Invalid signature format |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:34:00 -
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Green Gambit wrote:That's interesting, because there's a document on the Somer Blink site here: https://cogdev.net/blink/affiliate.rtf that states: Quote:A large proportion of people who play Blink buy ETC so they can use some of that ISK to gamble. So yeah, people are turning real-life money into credits to gamble with - at least according to the people who run the site - and they're in the best position to know that. And it's pretty common for real life money to be turned into credits or ships or something else to actually gamble with.
People are using RL money to buy PLEX. They CAN sell PLEX and use ISK to buy credits to gamble at SOMER's site but they also can chose not to do that. Buying PLEX from SOMER doesn't automatically grant you credits to gamble. Not anymore at least. Invalid signature format |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:38:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Please bear in mind that the CSM are bound by NDA on this. Until CCP releases information, we're not free to speak about it.
Ah, NDA. Three letters keeping raging mob of RL psychos at bay. Invalid signature format |
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